Q. When that was on the other side of the continent? They call themselves Nubian, while Nubians were nilo-saharan and not Bantu-Saharan the real ancestors of black Americans. Ancient Egypt has been proven to be a Cushitic (Caucasoid) civilization, as there are no pure cushites in this and the closest have been the tigrinya people of Eritrea at 90%. This y-DNA in it's purest form can give european features such blond hair/red hair, nordic nose, colored eyes as it is a genetic mutation from E3b. Why else do you think the ancient Egyptians excelled in architecture, civil engineer and chemistry? Why couldn't Bantu-Saharan or e1b1a (west Africans) repeat the same things if they were the same people? Now I understand why black anthropologists are referred to as "uncle toms", afrocentricity does not promote realism.
Answer
It has been confirmed that the Ancient and Modern Egyptians were/are Arab Semitic White, NOT, the Black Nubians,NOR Indo Eropean Aryan White, by DNA and anthropological skeletal(mainly the skull) measurements, but Afro centrists, and, other misinformed keep insisting on HEARSAY, they were Black.There was was mixing of the two different ethnicities.DO VISIT THE LINKS TO CLARIFY THINGS FOR YOU.
he Middle Easterners whom are Arab Semitic White(ancient and modern Egyptians are Arab Semitic White),and, generally have olive(golden brown) skin color,dark hair, and eyes-being Caucasian, a small percentage runs the same gamut as Indo European Aryan Whites. Arabs and the Southern Europeans are often mistaken for each other.Genetic tests on the Ancient Egyptian mummies and Modern Egyptians say yes, Egyptians, both Ancient and modern, are Arab Semitic White. They were Arab Semitic White since 5000 B.C.-Afro centrists often attempt to portray the Black Nubian-Sudanese-Kemetian slaves as the Ancient Egyptians- before that, the, region was populated by Blacks, most were driven out or assimilated through rape and consensual unions-there were indeed Black Nubian Pharoahs whom ruled from about 800-700 B.C.-helpful links:
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpreâ¦
http://www.geocities.com/enbp/pbs.html
http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/history_in_â¦
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Gatâ¦
http://www.catchpenny.org/race.html
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/Râ¦
http://naturescorner.wordpress.com/2008/â¦
http://connection.ebscohost.com/content/â¦
Egypt is and was 65% Arab Semitic White, 30% Black/Arab Semitic White mixes-Hamites are now considered around a 50%-50% mix-i.e.-the late Anwar Sadat, models- Iman, Lila Kebedde, and Arab (Soul Train), all had Arab Semitic White fathers and Black mothers. Berbers and Moors are essentially Arabs with 8-15% Black heritage.5% are from all other ethnic groups.If you start in Northern(Lower Egypt) and move south towards Southern(Upper) Egypt, it is mostly Arab Semitic White, than gradually becomes more mixed with Black becoming increasingly more predominate(Egypt annexed part of Black Nubia in 1521 B.C. to make up its lower south western corner). As you move into Sudan(50% Arab-50% Black) , it becomes more Black. Sudan is part of Arab North Africa(1/3 of Africa). Ethiopia and Somalia are each 1/3 Arab and 2/3 Black.
NOTE: There is NO such thing as a Black Arab. People confuse Nationality and ethnicity. There are Black Egyptians like there are Black Germans, but there are NO Black Indo European Aryan Whites, like there are NO Black Arab Semitic Whites.There are ONLY mixes as mentioned above. The News media often perpetuates this misconception by calling the Janjaweed of Sudan, Black Arabs. These are Black Sudanese whom turned against their own Black ethnicity, and, accepted Islam, learned Arabic, and accepted Arabic customs, much as if they accepted Cathlocism, learned German, and accepted Indo European Aryan customs.
Egypt was the crossroads of many cultures ,and, probably has one of the most diversified populations on the planet.All pharoahs were known for their fertility-Rhamses II fathered over one hundred children from women of all ethnic backgrounds-we can dream cann't we, guys.
For those who claim Cleopatra was Black, thousands of busts, drawings, paintings, and other likenesses(i.e.-coins) of her, along with written descriptions of her, from that time period, exist.One look and you can tell she is NOT Black(did not say she was Semitic White/White either-she is Greek(Indo European White),but definitely, not all ,if any, Black either), although she may possibly have some Black ancestry. Her half sister was half White(Greek)-half Black.
The scholars seem to agree: Cleopatra was the last in a line of PtolemiesâMacedonian Greeks(Whites)âwho ruled Egypt from the death of Alexander the Great in 305 B.C. until Antonyâs defeat in the battle of Actium in 31 B.C. The Ptolemies, as was the custom, were an incestuous, intermarrying peoples (to preserve the royal bloodline),also often having relations with the courtiers and concubines who filled their palaces. Many of the children born of these unions were given a place in the royal lineage despite being illegitimate, the secret unspoken.
Many believe that Cleopatraâs father was the product of such a unionâhis mother may have been a concubine from Nubia(Black) or Alexandria(White). Lending credence to this theory is the fact that Cleopatraâs bond to the people of Egypt seemed greater than those of her Ptolemic ancestors, who aligned themselves culturally and linguistically with Greece.
The Badari are actually a hybrid of Black(Nubian)/Arab Semitic White- Mulattos-Hamites whom predominated in Southern Egypt.
Numerous anthropological studies were performed on Badarian crania after two successful excavations conducted in the mid- to late-1920s. The usual result was that the Badarians were African ***HYBRIDS***(emphasis mine). Notably in 1971 Physical Anthropologist Eugen Strouhal re-analyzed over a dozen independent scientific studies (a couple of which were his own) performed previously and summarized their results to arrive at a similar conclusion: "mixture of races." Recent re-analyses of previous studies, including Professor Strouhal's paper, reveal that only West and South African skulls were included in the baseline for a determination of "true n*egro" though, while the typically elongated East African skull forms were disregarded, assumed not to indicate true blacks. Some recent studies additionally suggest a modal metric phentoype in Badarian crania that is much more similar to the Tropical African series than to the various other samples studied.
Near the end of his paper (1971), Professor Strouhal further enumerated several archaeological studies that suggest a migration of culture, practice and belief from African regions located to the west and south of the Badarian sites. Strouhal's work is noted in a 2005 study of the Badari which concluded: "The Badarians show a greater affinity to indigenous Africans while not being identical. This suggests that the Badarians were more affiliated with local and an indigenous African population than with Europeans. It is more likely that Near Eastern/southern European domesticated animals and plants were adopted by indigenous Nile Valley people without a major immigration of non-Africans. There was more of cultural transfer.":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badari
Caucasoid â E (only subclade E1b1b is a Caucasoid marker-all other sublades of E are N*egroid haplomarkers), F(Semites), H, I, J(Semites-1 & 2), K, L3(Semites), T, U, V(Semites), W, X, Y.
Mongoloid(anthropologists now include American Indians(Red) and Malaysians(Brown) ethnicities in this group â C, D, F, G, O, Q, S- American Indians also have A, B, and X.
N*egroid â A, B , E(except for subclade E1b1b which is a Caucasoid haplomarker), L1 & L2, M & N-all groups have these, but certain subclades are restricted to Blacks-presence of N in Blacks is not clearly defined and is possibly considered due to genetic backflow rather than present normally.
M, N - is present in ALL ethnicities, but certain subclades are restricted to only Blacks.
P, R, Z - Caucasoid and Mongoloids only, not Blacks.
A better question is why do Black Nubians always try to claim Arab achievements as their own?
Diodorus Siculus as well as the Ethiopans indicate the Egyptians are different from the Ethiopians whose armies occupied Egypt for a short time until the Arabs drove them out."They [the Ethiopians] say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods"] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws." Diodorus's declared intention to trace the origins of the cult of Osiris, alias the Greek Dionysus also commonly known by his Roman name Bacchus. The Homeric Hymn locates the birth of Dionysus in a mysterious city of Nysa "near the streams of Aegyptus [Egypt]" (Hesiod 287). Diodorus cites this reference as well as the ancient belief that Dionysus was the son of Ammon, king of Libya (3.68.1), and much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica [Library of History] is devoted to the intertwined histories of Dionysus and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization.[emphasis added]: http://wysinger.homestead.com/strabo.htmâ¦
The Ancient Egyptians borrowed heavily, including their hieroglyph system, from the slightly older(100-200 years) ADVANCED Black Nubian tribe Ta-Seti.
It has been confirmed that the Ancient and Modern Egyptians were/are Arab Semitic White, NOT, the Black Nubians,NOR Indo Eropean Aryan White, by DNA and anthropological skeletal(mainly the skull) measurements, but Afro centrists, and, other misinformed keep insisting on HEARSAY, they were Black.There was was mixing of the two different ethnicities.DO VISIT THE LINKS TO CLARIFY THINGS FOR YOU.
he Middle Easterners whom are Arab Semitic White(ancient and modern Egyptians are Arab Semitic White),and, generally have olive(golden brown) skin color,dark hair, and eyes-being Caucasian, a small percentage runs the same gamut as Indo European Aryan Whites. Arabs and the Southern Europeans are often mistaken for each other.Genetic tests on the Ancient Egyptian mummies and Modern Egyptians say yes, Egyptians, both Ancient and modern, are Arab Semitic White. They were Arab Semitic White since 5000 B.C.-Afro centrists often attempt to portray the Black Nubian-Sudanese-Kemetian slaves as the Ancient Egyptians- before that, the, region was populated by Blacks, most were driven out or assimilated through rape and consensual unions-there were indeed Black Nubian Pharoahs whom ruled from about 800-700 B.C.-helpful links:
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpreâ¦
http://www.geocities.com/enbp/pbs.html
http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/history_in_â¦
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Gatâ¦
http://www.catchpenny.org/race.html
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/Râ¦
http://naturescorner.wordpress.com/2008/â¦
http://connection.ebscohost.com/content/â¦
Egypt is and was 65% Arab Semitic White, 30% Black/Arab Semitic White mixes-Hamites are now considered around a 50%-50% mix-i.e.-the late Anwar Sadat, models- Iman, Lila Kebedde, and Arab (Soul Train), all had Arab Semitic White fathers and Black mothers. Berbers and Moors are essentially Arabs with 8-15% Black heritage.5% are from all other ethnic groups.If you start in Northern(Lower Egypt) and move south towards Southern(Upper) Egypt, it is mostly Arab Semitic White, than gradually becomes more mixed with Black becoming increasingly more predominate(Egypt annexed part of Black Nubia in 1521 B.C. to make up its lower south western corner). As you move into Sudan(50% Arab-50% Black) , it becomes more Black. Sudan is part of Arab North Africa(1/3 of Africa). Ethiopia and Somalia are each 1/3 Arab and 2/3 Black.
NOTE: There is NO such thing as a Black Arab. People confuse Nationality and ethnicity. There are Black Egyptians like there are Black Germans, but there are NO Black Indo European Aryan Whites, like there are NO Black Arab Semitic Whites.There are ONLY mixes as mentioned above. The News media often perpetuates this misconception by calling the Janjaweed of Sudan, Black Arabs. These are Black Sudanese whom turned against their own Black ethnicity, and, accepted Islam, learned Arabic, and accepted Arabic customs, much as if they accepted Cathlocism, learned German, and accepted Indo European Aryan customs.
Egypt was the crossroads of many cultures ,and, probably has one of the most diversified populations on the planet.All pharoahs were known for their fertility-Rhamses II fathered over one hundred children from women of all ethnic backgrounds-we can dream cann't we, guys.
For those who claim Cleopatra was Black, thousands of busts, drawings, paintings, and other likenesses(i.e.-coins) of her, along with written descriptions of her, from that time period, exist.One look and you can tell she is NOT Black(did not say she was Semitic White/White either-she is Greek(Indo European White),but definitely, not all ,if any, Black either), although she may possibly have some Black ancestry. Her half sister was half White(Greek)-half Black.
The scholars seem to agree: Cleopatra was the last in a line of PtolemiesâMacedonian Greeks(Whites)âwho ruled Egypt from the death of Alexander the Great in 305 B.C. until Antonyâs defeat in the battle of Actium in 31 B.C. The Ptolemies, as was the custom, were an incestuous, intermarrying peoples (to preserve the royal bloodline),also often having relations with the courtiers and concubines who filled their palaces. Many of the children born of these unions were given a place in the royal lineage despite being illegitimate, the secret unspoken.
Many believe that Cleopatraâs father was the product of such a unionâhis mother may have been a concubine from Nubia(Black) or Alexandria(White). Lending credence to this theory is the fact that Cleopatraâs bond to the people of Egypt seemed greater than those of her Ptolemic ancestors, who aligned themselves culturally and linguistically with Greece.
The Badari are actually a hybrid of Black(Nubian)/Arab Semitic White- Mulattos-Hamites whom predominated in Southern Egypt.
Numerous anthropological studies were performed on Badarian crania after two successful excavations conducted in the mid- to late-1920s. The usual result was that the Badarians were African ***HYBRIDS***(emphasis mine). Notably in 1971 Physical Anthropologist Eugen Strouhal re-analyzed over a dozen independent scientific studies (a couple of which were his own) performed previously and summarized their results to arrive at a similar conclusion: "mixture of races." Recent re-analyses of previous studies, including Professor Strouhal's paper, reveal that only West and South African skulls were included in the baseline for a determination of "true n*egro" though, while the typically elongated East African skull forms were disregarded, assumed not to indicate true blacks. Some recent studies additionally suggest a modal metric phentoype in Badarian crania that is much more similar to the Tropical African series than to the various other samples studied.
Near the end of his paper (1971), Professor Strouhal further enumerated several archaeological studies that suggest a migration of culture, practice and belief from African regions located to the west and south of the Badarian sites. Strouhal's work is noted in a 2005 study of the Badari which concluded: "The Badarians show a greater affinity to indigenous Africans while not being identical. This suggests that the Badarians were more affiliated with local and an indigenous African population than with Europeans. It is more likely that Near Eastern/southern European domesticated animals and plants were adopted by indigenous Nile Valley people without a major immigration of non-Africans. There was more of cultural transfer.":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badari
Caucasoid â E (only subclade E1b1b is a Caucasoid marker-all other sublades of E are N*egroid haplomarkers), F(Semites), H, I, J(Semites-1 & 2), K, L3(Semites), T, U, V(Semites), W, X, Y.
Mongoloid(anthropologists now include American Indians(Red) and Malaysians(Brown) ethnicities in this group â C, D, F, G, O, Q, S- American Indians also have A, B, and X.
N*egroid â A, B , E(except for subclade E1b1b which is a Caucasoid haplomarker), L1 & L2, M & N-all groups have these, but certain subclades are restricted to Blacks-presence of N in Blacks is not clearly defined and is possibly considered due to genetic backflow rather than present normally.
M, N - is present in ALL ethnicities, but certain subclades are restricted to only Blacks.
P, R, Z - Caucasoid and Mongoloids only, not Blacks.
A better question is why do Black Nubians always try to claim Arab achievements as their own?
Diodorus Siculus as well as the Ethiopans indicate the Egyptians are different from the Ethiopians whose armies occupied Egypt for a short time until the Arabs drove them out."They [the Ethiopians] say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods"] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws." Diodorus's declared intention to trace the origins of the cult of Osiris, alias the Greek Dionysus also commonly known by his Roman name Bacchus. The Homeric Hymn locates the birth of Dionysus in a mysterious city of Nysa "near the streams of Aegyptus [Egypt]" (Hesiod 287). Diodorus cites this reference as well as the ancient belief that Dionysus was the son of Ammon, king of Libya (3.68.1), and much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica [Library of History] is devoted to the intertwined histories of Dionysus and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization.[emphasis added]: http://wysinger.homestead.com/strabo.htmâ¦
The Ancient Egyptians borrowed heavily, including their hieroglyph system, from the slightly older(100-200 years) ADVANCED Black Nubian tribe Ta-Seti.
is the okapi a member of the horse family?
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Family: Giraffidae
Okapis are found only in the tropical forests of northeastern Zaire. They prefer altitudes between 500 and 1,000 m, although they may venture above 1,000 m in the eastern montane rainforests. One sighting occurred at 1,450 m on Mt. Hoyo, in the upper Ituri. The range of the okapi is limited by high montane forests to the east, swamp forests below 500 m to the west, savannas of the Sahel/Soudan to the north, and open woodlands to the south. Okapis are most common in the Wamba and Epulu areas.
The okapi has a form superficially resembling that of a horse. Average body length is 2.5 m, and average height at the shoulder is 1.5 m. The neck is relatively long in comparison to that of other ruminants, and the ears are large and flexible. The body is chocolate-brown, with creamy white horizontal stripes on the legs and hindquarters and white stockings on the ankles. The cheeks, throat, and chest are whitish-gray or tan (Bodmer 1992). The unique color pattern of the okapi allows it to disappear into the background of dense vegetation and rotting leaves where it lives (Grzimek 1990). Male okapis have hair-covered horns not exceeding 15 cm in length. The horns are fused to the frontal bones over the orbits and project rearward. Females may be slightly red in color, lack horns, and average 4.2 cm taller than males. Both males and females have interdigital glands on the front and hind feet (Bodmer 1992). The most giraffe-like feature of the okapi is the long black tongue which is used for plucking buds, leaves, and branches from trees and shrubs as well as for grooming (Kingdon 1979). In addition, the walking gait of the okapi closely resembles that of a giraffe. Both giraffe and okapi simultaneously step with the front and hind leg on the same side of the body rather than moving alternate legs on either side like other ungulates.
Family: Giraffidae
Okapis are found only in the tropical forests of northeastern Zaire. They prefer altitudes between 500 and 1,000 m, although they may venture above 1,000 m in the eastern montane rainforests. One sighting occurred at 1,450 m on Mt. Hoyo, in the upper Ituri. The range of the okapi is limited by high montane forests to the east, swamp forests below 500 m to the west, savannas of the Sahel/Soudan to the north, and open woodlands to the south. Okapis are most common in the Wamba and Epulu areas.
The okapi has a form superficially resembling that of a horse. Average body length is 2.5 m, and average height at the shoulder is 1.5 m. The neck is relatively long in comparison to that of other ruminants, and the ears are large and flexible. The body is chocolate-brown, with creamy white horizontal stripes on the legs and hindquarters and white stockings on the ankles. The cheeks, throat, and chest are whitish-gray or tan (Bodmer 1992). The unique color pattern of the okapi allows it to disappear into the background of dense vegetation and rotting leaves where it lives (Grzimek 1990). Male okapis have hair-covered horns not exceeding 15 cm in length. The horns are fused to the frontal bones over the orbits and project rearward. Females may be slightly red in color, lack horns, and average 4.2 cm taller than males. Both males and females have interdigital glands on the front and hind feet (Bodmer 1992). The most giraffe-like feature of the okapi is the long black tongue which is used for plucking buds, leaves, and branches from trees and shrubs as well as for grooming (Kingdon 1979). In addition, the walking gait of the okapi closely resembles that of a giraffe. Both giraffe and okapi simultaneously step with the front and hind leg on the same side of the body rather than moving alternate legs on either side like other ungulates.
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